The Tax Refusal

That which follows are snippets of an exchange that involved Government Of Canada employees doing their utmost to confront “The Tax Refusal”; which had grown in Canada due the result of “Her Majesty The Queen, In Right Of Canada vs Daniel J. Lavigne" in the matter known as:

“Decision T2020-88”

Many suggest that participants in this effort need but plead “Not Guilty” when brought before a Court of Competent Jurisdiction, and then state that you rely on the Courts to recognize the RIGHT and DUTY of all to refuse to be party to plans and preparations that are predicated on a will and capacity to mass murder fellow defenseless Human Beings.

From Time To Time, I shall add various snippets, properly identified as to my currrent view, of any or all such comments. Please note / remember that I have NO memory of having started “The Tax Refusal”, or where it ended, or is it continuing? For the curious: The loss of memory took place while being held in a Military Psychiatric Facility, from which I have no memory of being discharged / released / etc. in the Summer/Fall/? of 1963. I woke to a “New Reality” at some point in the June to September period of 2009 with NO Memory of the intervening time, other than an event that “May not” have taken place, involving some form of contact with an Alien Being. That event is known to the Government Of Canada. It seems that neither I, nor anyone else involved, reported it at the time it purportedly took place. Following my return to Canada from Cambodia in 2012, the Government of Canada became formally aware and quite curious of my claims of being able to build a StarDrive in March / April 2013. Returning to Cambodia in August 2016, I have enjoyed various contacts with their emissaries while traveling throughout South-East Asia. The “StarDrive “ shall soon be built.

************************

Now, from the Past . . .

Daniel J. Lavigne 14/03/1997 


nale...@cadvision.com (Derek Nalecki) wrote: 

tax...@planeteer.com (Daniel J. Lavigne) wrote: 

>>: Greed is to politics as lies are to taxes. 

>>: "The Question"; 

>>: “Does my birth as a human being truly condemn
>>: me to paying taxes to or otherwise supporting
>>: a society so cowardly and lost to the madness
>>: of greed as to participate in plans and preparations
>>: to wage nuclear war and risk thereby the murder
>>: of hundreds of millions of defenceless fellow
>>: human beings?”
snipped 

>I do not disagree with the facts on nuclear weapons
>posted here, only with interpretation. Clearly in a
>world where madmen like Saddam Hussein, possession of
>any weapon is simple prudence.
snipped 

tax...@planeteer.com (Daniel J. Lavigne) responds: 

With the continuing development of madmen and
allegiance to madmen, the total and all-out use
of all weapons of mass murder seems unavoidable. 

Some, with very human response, truly believe
that equal or superior armament offers nations the
only chance of protecting their present positions. 

Humanity has played that game since we discovered
that a stick could extend our reach and increase
our circle of “protective space”. 

Add arrows and slings and we were well underway
to establishing the “dominion” over the beasts
etc. that tribal elders held so necessary. No
longer able to take part in their own defence,
how else to have younger men “protect” them? 

We’re still at it to-day with one added bit of
chicanery. We are now prepared to murder millions
of our neighbors, including children who will never
learn how to outrun an incoming nuclear missile or
such, in order to defend the wealth and power of
established, allegiance demanding, interests.
Ah Progress! Bullshit! 

The madness of greed, continuing its spread, is
relied upon by madmen to assure them access to
weapons, wan faced whores and weak kneed fools.
All of which help such bastards to extend their
circles of “power”. And the sons and daughters of
fools, throughout time, have continued to play a
game wherein they were the prize, the pieces of
meat, the obedient, obsequious serfs so necessary to
the useless existence of the bastards of this world. 

Fools, those unable to say “No!” to “The Question”,
spout their screed about services and “you should
pay - we’re all in this together”. They will never
wake up. Cowards always tend to hide and mew their
whine. Bastards! Fools! Hypocrites! 

The race to the abyss will be fueled by their efforts and
dollars. The efforts directed at getting a smile, however
fleeting or sincere, from their masters or a notice in
some rag about their generous, loyal and needed support. 

But never will such fools dare to question the
course of history and the screams of some 100+
murdered millions in this century alone. Fools
accept the status quo. After all, they haven’t
been shot, yet. They haven’t been asked to launch
a weapon at their neighbors, yet. They haven’t seen
the pictures of children murdered by maniacs trained
to hair trigger pitch by their tax dollars, yet.
They haven’t seen anything, yet. SURE! 

The tax refusal, folks, may have been started too
late. The madness of greed, mixed with billions
of cowards, is a potent and extremely incendiary
mixture. Plans to murder each other by the millions,
not just mere hundreds of thousands a la Berlin,
Conventry, Dresden, Hiroshima, London, Moscow, Nagasaki,
Tokyo, Warsaw - keep adding your own - scream for
fulfillment by millions of trained would-be murderers
who cry for something to talk about in their dotage.
Surely you’ll help them satisfy their longing? Surely
you’ll continue paying the taxes that will help fuel
their insanity and lead to total and all-out use?? 

Surely you would not deny this little bit of adventure
is great for your sons and daughters? Notice now how well
they interact with the medium of modern messages? Notice
now how easily they have adopted their elders attributes?

Have you noticed how they can murder each other as
easily as chewing chocolate? Have you noticed how
well they accept the hypocrisy of “justice”? How they
laugh at police officers as they lie to each other
trying to justify the beating and arrest of another
“druggie”? Guess where we’re going folks!! Go ahead! 

THE PARTY IS OVER - ITS TIME TO THINK. 

Are you going to continue as cowards and feed the
madness that has you, RIGHT NOW, saying “But what
else can we do? What about the costs of services
that we also require in the meantime?" Try waking up!
That’s a start! With increasing numbers joining the
refusal an accomodation will have to be made. We will
pay our way! We will help supply common needs! But
only to those able to say "NO!" to "The Question". 

Wake up and realize that all of your hopes, dreams
and aspirations are meaningless crap in the outhouse
of history if you continue to allow the bastards of
this world to spend your money towards the development
of even more weapons of mass murder. Know this! They
will be used! Then what? Where then the questions from
hypocrites questioning your use of existing services??
Where then your questions about joining? THINK! 

Piss on the hypocrites!! Join the refusal and tell
such cowardly bastards exactly where they can go!
To their masters backsides with ready tongues!! 

If you say your children and the future mean
something to you and your not just another tax
twiddler type lying to yourself, THINK about what
is happening! Address your responsibility in
allowing the madness to reach this stage! THINK!
THINK BY YOURSELF OR WITH ANOTHER - BUT THINK! 

JOIN! the refusal! Its lawful! Its growing! JOIN! 

Daniel J. Lavigne
Founder, Co-ordinator
International Humanity House
--
We Are 

We are the authors of hope
The spirits of seeds spread through space
Giving birth on the winds and the seas!
We preach love and acceptance with grace! 

Long in the arcs of our orbits
From afar we felt the pulse
The call of seeds long planted
To come! To love! And rejoice! 

Copyright. March 1, 1997 Daniel J. Lavigne
--
THE POET’S SOUL IS DIFFERENT, FORMED BY THE FIRES OF LIFE,
IT GUIDES HIS PASSIONS, LEADS HIS HEART AND LIVES FOREVER!
Copyright. June 10, 1996 Daniel J. Lavigne 

Daniel J. Lavigne 

14/03/1997 


mj...@mail.awinc.com, Marc Joly wrote: 

>However, I still don't buy your use of services provided
>by tax dollars during this period of protest! You are
>saying that you will not contribute monetarily to a
>society bent on preparation and capacity to murder
>millions of their neighbours - yet you will still
>partake in those "other things" that that VERY SAME
>society provides you with. This is a total cop-out! 

>If I supported your cause to the extent that you feel
>I should - I couldn't possibly rationalize using ANY
>of these services because to do so would be "consorting
>with the enemy". 

tax...@planeteer.com (Daniel J. Lavigne) responds: 

What I am saying Marc is very simple. 

Answer “The Question”: 

“Does my birth as a human being truly condemn
me to paying taxes to or otherwise supporting
a society so cowardly and lost to the madness
of greed as to participate in plans and preparations
to wage nuclear war and risk thereby the murder
of hundreds of millions of defenceless fellow
human beings?” 

Live your answer. 

Discard your statement “If I supported . . should.” 

Either you have backbone and insight sufficient to join
the refusal - without any support from any one; or you
simply do not and believe that your support of a society
participating in plans and preparations to commit mass
murder is an acceptable and unavoidable aspect of your
life. Its that simple Marc. Live your answer. 

While I or another may choose to use whatever services
paid for by the fools supporting societal insanity as
a strategy of denying them other funds with which to
expand their role in the arms race, such strategy may
not be acceptable to you or another. You or the other
decide your levels of activity, the scope of your
strategy, in this lawful and growing refusal. 

Your duty, if you see a call to duty in this, is to
state, unequivocally, that the status quo is not
acceptable, that you will withold all support from
any society participating in plans and preparations
that are predicated on a will and capacity to commit
mass murder until it uses or dismantles all such
weapons and the mindsets to so use them. 

No one has all the answers. The refusal is growing
because individuals are revolted by the truth, the
sheer lunacy of their prior support for those plans. 

I’m an Ironworker by trade Marc. Not some philosopher
hoping to come up with soft words and gentle quotes to
lead you to thinking about a million plus pre-requisites
prior to making a decision to act. Stuff that crap Marc.

In the meantime the refusal continues to grow - as it
must to force an end to an insanity that you know will
render all of your taxes, efforts, hopes, dreams and
aspirations mere specks of radioactive dust. 

Answer “The Question”. Live your answer. 

Daniel J. Lavigne
Founder, Co-ordinator
International Humanity House
--
THE SALIVATORS 

Sheep like humanity, howling as wolves.
To evil deferring, destroying the good.
As foulmouthed cowards, wasting their breath
Flashing fools fashions, ignoring the threat,
Of a flash that will fashion . . .
Humanity’s death. 

Copyright. Feb./88 Daniel J. Lavigne 

--
THE POET’S SOUL IS DIFFERENT, FORMED BY THE FIRES OF LIFE,
IT GUIDES HIS PASSIONS, LEADS HIS HEART AND LIVES FOREVER!
Copyright. June 10, 1996 Daniel J. Lavigne 

Daniel J. Lavigne 

14/03/1997 

mj...@mail.awinc.com (M. Joly) wrote: 

A whole bunch of stuff that's worth reviewing plus . . 

>Until then, I don't feel that there is any viable
>alternatives - it is morally bankrupt, in my opinion,
>to reject the entire system because you don't like a
>part of it (whatever that may be, different in our
>individual cases), yet turn around and use that system
>extensively whenever you see fit. 

tax...@planeteer.com (Daniel J. Lavigne) responds: 

Wow! Such emotion!! And you want similar millions with
their index fingers near the nuclear launch buttons? 

You want everyone to continue supporting preparations
to murder millions because it is “morally bankrupt to
reject the entire system”?? If you read that real loud
a few million times, will some one believe you Marc?? 

Perhaps you were hoping that I’ll stop the refusal
if you guarantee that you’ll rain nuclear missiles
on Sundays only! And only when we're in church? 

It won’t happen that way pilgrim. Your “honest hombre”
approach is a sham! You want permission to stop paying
taxes?? Get it from those who demand you pay them
without regard to the uses they’ll put your money! 

You want permission to stop supporting societal
insanity? Your out of luck!! The only person that
can do that is you! And you have already admitted
that you will not think for yourself! You can lie
to millions a million times Marc, it doesn't matter!
We still see through them! (I saw you coming pilgrim!) 

Hell!! You're left with working for the government
again!! And doing what they say without question!
(Lay down your bucks Marc! Roll right Marc!) 

If societal insanity is acceptable to you, why fight
so hard against others who have grown past that bit?
Is the pay that great??? 

And if your really upset, go pound on your MP's door
until he and his friends try to put a stop to the
refusal. Its that easy Marc. You'd be the toast of
the town and I'd be ground dust. (Maybe) Go for it!! 

Think about that Marc and answer “The Question”. 

Tell us your answer. Go ahead! The newsgroup wants to know! 

Just one more small little bit. I discovered what makes
your bosses really upset with the whole idea of the refusal
over and above its claim to the colour of "Right" through
decision T2020-88 of The Federal Court Of Canada and the
Nuremberg judgement.

It has to do with that nagging little push of people
towards thinking for themselves without regard to the
needs of the establishment and its cohorts. 

Gosh, I guess your bosses could be right. I am a devious
so and so who will use their techniques. But shucks Marc,
isn't that just part of the "Game"?? 

As for Marc's little bit of wanting me to answer his
question, he pretends to have missed the object of the
exercise. He hasn't of course, but the refusal is starting
to get on Ottawa's nerves and they would really love to slow
it down. 

Here is my answer to Marc's question. When everyone has
realized their duty and stopped paying taxes until we either
use or dismantle our weaponry ("We" as in Humanity) there
won't be any services to worry about. There won't be any
services available period!! So get real Marc and think
before asking your next "question". In the meantime may
we have your answer to "The Question"? Assuming, of
course, that your permitted to answer it!! 

Let me help you a bit Marc. The counter to the scenario I
offer is that you truly believe that there are so few people
with backbone; that not more than mere hundreds will take
advantage and we will all, legally, avoid filing returns or
paying taxes - for ever!! 

But your wrong Marc. Canadians will join in the refusal
as soon as they understand the depth of depravity that
drove them to support societal insanity. 

All your telling us is that you believe Canada is populated
by cowards who should not be exposed to the words of someone
who means what he says. Now everyone will be thinking about
this; for which I thank you. 

Re: The American Military developed the internet!!
and here I a gentle soul, a Poet, seeking justice! :) :) :)
Oooh! OooH!! OooHH! 

G'day Marc. 

Daniel J. Lavigne
Founder, Co-ordinator
International Humanity House
--
Mango Tax Tango 

The mango is a fruit, that grows in a tree
It can plop on your head, It can get you bit by a bee 

The mango is a gift, I was told it was free
Except for the tax man, now running round my tree 

With a bee for his bottom, two for his ear
Three for his swollen face, and a zillion to his fear 

The poor swollen sucker, he’s not fit for true work
But spying for his masters, and bending for their pork. 

Poor poky loser, his daddy was the same,
His mother overworked, until they made her lame 

The Mango Tax Tango Is more than just for two
Its for a crowd, nice and loud, to poke poor poky through. 

Copyright. 1996 Daniel J. Lavigne 


--
THE POET’S SOUL IS DIFFERENT, FORMED BY THE FIRES OF LIFE,
IT GUIDES HIS PASSIONS, LEADS HIS HEART AND LIVES FOREVER!
Copyright. June 10, 1996 Daniel J. Lavigne 

mj...@mail.awinc.com 

15/03/1997 

>Either you have backbone and insight sufficient to join
>the refusal - without any support from any one; or you
>simply do not and believe that your support of a society
>participating in plans and preparations to commit mass
>murder is an acceptable and unavoidable aspect of your
>life. Its that simple Marc. Live your answer. 

Quite frankly Daniel, I resent your implication that I am without
"backbone" simply because I have not embraced your "cause". You may not
"believe" in the same things that I do, and that is your right - it is
not my right to attempt to insult you because of that! Perhaps I should
be burned at the stake because I don't subscribe to your way of
thinking. You set yourself up as some kind of "speaker of truth" and
anyone that doesn't go along with you is a bastard, coward or hypocrite.
I say you're WRONG - you're no better than a typical racist - I'm not
the same as you so you must criticize me... 


>
>While I or another may choose to use whatever services
>paid for by the fools supporting societal insanity as
>a strategy of denying them other funds with which to
>expand their role in the arms race, such strategy may
>not be acceptable to you or another. You or the other
>decide your levels of activity, the scope of your
>strategy, in this lawful and growing refusal. 

Again, total cop-out. You're like a small child who needs to have
everything their own way. You choose not to pay for anything, but still
want it all - maybe you'd change your mind if your child was in need of
medical attention and none was available because all of us "fools"
refused to let you "non-contributors" take a free ride... 

>
>Your duty, if you see a call to duty in this, is to
>state, unequivocally, that the status quo is not
>acceptable, that you will withold all support from
>any society participating in plans and preparations
>that are predicated on a will and capacity to commit
>mass murder until it uses or dismantles all such
>weapons and the mindsets to so use them. 

No, that's your duty, not mine! 

>
>No one has all the answers. The refusal is growing
>because individuals are revolted by the truth, the
>sheer lunacy of their prior support for those plans. 

You seem to have all the answers about how I should live my life! 

>
>I’m an Ironworker by trade Marc. Not some philosopher
>hoping to come up with soft words and gentle quotes to
>lead you to thinking about a million plus pre-requisites
>prior to making a decision to act. Stuff that crap Marc. 

Daniel, you seem to be getting perturbed that I don't agree with you.
Your words are increasingly obnoxious and insulting - again a
contradiction. Interesting response from someone apparently supporting
world peace...? 

>
>In the meantime the refusal continues to grow - as it
>must to force an end to an insanity that you know will
>render all of your taxes, efforts, hopes, dreams and
>aspirations mere specks of radioactive dust.
>
>Answer “The Question”. Live your answer. 


Answer MY QUESTION - if you choose not to contribute to the services
provide to you, how can you rationalize your use of them? Quite simply,
you can't! "The Question" as you like to put is doesn't answer mine.
You'd rather I paid for you and then you have the "integrity" to call me
names because I help to support individuals like yourself. Here's my
answer - don't want to pay, fine don't. But don't come asking for
handouts when things don't go your way - don't use any infrastructure
provided by taxes, don't use medical, educational, police, and other
services provided by taxes. In fact, don't use the Internet because we
all know it was originally started by the US military!!!!! 

Daniel J. Lavigne 

15/03/1997 


Francine The Sardine Mackan, mirror identity to
Francis The Mackerel Mackan, wrote: 

The usual cack. (What else?) 

However, I am saddened to report that, as a result of
a foggy mirror lovematch with each other this morning,
they/it suffered grievious injury. The sardine’s slap,
as it was trying to guide the mackerel’s moves, broke
the mirror; with shards, its reported, now placed most inconveniently
near their dorsal vent. Concerns about
comfort while seated at work continue to arrive. 

However, decision T2020-88 by The Federal Court of
Canada - Trial Division, confirming the right and
duty of citizens as outlined in the Nuremberg
judgment to refuse to pay taxes to or otherwise
support any society participating in plans and
preparations to commit crimes against humanity,
has given rise to increasing numbers of citizens
saying “NO!” to “The Question”: 

“Does my birth as a human being truly condemn
me to paying taxes to or otherwise supporting
a society so cowardly and lost to the madness
of greed as to participate in plans and preparations to wage nuclear war and risk thereby the murder
of hundreds of millions of defenceless fellow
human beings?” 

Our little fishys’ work load is slowly dimishing
and will lead hopefully, to a quick healing of its vent
and its subsequent ability to enjoy reading Usenet on a
fulltime basis with other part time tax twiddlers. 

In view of their coming exposure to the world, their
growing awareness of what was being done with taxpayer
funds, perhaps they will dedicate themselves to devising
new means by which those not possessing backbone sufficient
to answer “The Question” could severely limit the amount
of taxes they continue to surrender? 

Be well little fishys! :) :) G’Bye! 

Daniel J. Lavigne
Founder, Co-ordinator
International Humanity House
--
Nailing Sherman’s Coffin Shut! 

Shut Up!! Oh Sherman!! Shut Up!!
Shut Up!! Oh Sherman!! Shut Up!! 

Slam the lid shut Sherman! Silence your shriek!
Its meaningless cack in the wrap of your sheet!
The lies that you lived were worthless indeed!
And now you are left to repeat useless screed! 

So Shut Up!! Oh Sherman!! Shut Up!!
Shut Up!! Oh Sherman!! Shut Up!!
Slam down the lid!! Please Do an El Cid!
Slam down the lid and Goodbye!! 

Never trust a liarly scribe!
Much less his lawyerly tribes!
For their lies false suffice
To pay for the rice
To cover their tracks!
And felonious advice! 

So Shut Up!! Oh Sherman!! Shut Up!!
Shut Up!! Oh Sherman!! Shut Up!! 

Slam down the lid AND Silence your shriek!
Its meaningless cack in the wrap of your sheet!
The lies that you lived were worthless indeed!
And now you are left to ROT with your screed! 

So Shut Up!! Oh Sherman!! Shut Up!!
Shut Up!! Oh Sherman!! Shut Up!!
Let’s jump on that lid!! Let’s Dooo An El Cid!
Let’s nail down that lid and Goodbye!! G’bye Sherman! 

Copyright March 13, 1997 Daniel J. Lavigne 


--
THE POET’S SOUL IS DIFFERENT, FORMED BY THE FIRES OF LIFE,
IT GUIDES HIS PASSIONS, LEADS HIS HEART AND LIVES FOREVER!
Copyright. June 10, 1996 Daniel J. Lavigne 

mj...@mail.awinc.com 

16/03/1997 

>>Until then, I don't feel that there is any viable
>>alternatives - it is morally bankrupt, in my opinion,
>>to reject the entire system because you don't like a
>>part of it (whatever that may be, different in our
>>individual cases), yet turn around and use that system
>>extensively whenever you see fit.
>
>tax...@planeteer.com (Daniel J. Lavigne) responds:
>
>Wow! Such emotion!! And you want similar millions with
>their index fingers near the nuclear launch buttons? 

Is that what I SAID??? I don't think so!!!! Simply because I'm not
actively involved in your "cause" doesn't mean by default I'm an
advocate of nuclear holocaust! 

>
>You want everyone to continue supporting preparations
>to murder millions because it is “morally bankrupt to
>reject the entire system”?? If you read that real loud
>a few million times, will some one believe you Marc?? 

Again, is that what I said. Again NO! I believe it's morally bankrupt to
leech off a system that YOU feel is morally corrupt and have rejected.
Vastly different from your paraphrase! You know, you remind me of the
quintessential TV-Evangalist - railing against "sinners" while chasing
down everything on two legs.... 


>
>Perhaps you were hoping that I’ll stop the refusal
>if you guarantee that you’ll rain nuclear missiles
>on Sundays only! And only when we're in church? 

Sure, that's exactly what I said... Come on Daniel, you're upset that
I've called into question an apparent contradiction in your behaviour. 

>
>It won’t happen that way pilgrim. Your “honest hombre”
>approach is a sham! You want permission to stop paying
>taxes?? Get it from those who demand you pay them
>without regard to the uses they’ll put your money! 

No, I want acknowledgement from you that you use the system whenever you
please and could care less how it's funded, because you reject the
funding of "the system" for your "humanitarian" reasons. If it wasn't
for the efforts of others, you'd be s.o.l when it comes to medical care
for your children, police services for your community, education for
yourself, roads to drive on and an Internet on which to "advertise" your
views, amongst other things. 


What's this about Honest Hombre sham? Are you confusing me with someone
else? 


>
>You want permission to stop supporting societal
>insanity? Your out of luck!! The only person that
>can do that is you! And you have already admitted
>that you will not think for yourself! You can lie
>to millions a million times Marc, it doesn't matter!
>We still see through them! (I saw you coming pilgrim!) 

Ah, I see, now I'm a "Liar" (along with a Coward, Bastard, Fool and
Hypocrite). Gee Daniel, what happened to your "acceptance of others with
grace" or whatever and your peace, love and understanding words.
According to you, I'm a terrible person - only because I choose to
challenge your use of government services of which you don't contribute
to. 

>
>Hell!! Your left with working for the government
>again!! And doing what they say without question!
>(Lay down your bucks Marc! Roll right Marc!) 

Again, I've never said that. 

>
>If societal insanity is acceptable to you, why fight
>so hard against others who have grown past that bit?
>Is the pay that great??? 

Did I say that I thought "societal insanity" is acceptable to me? No
again! 

>
>And if your really upset, go pound on your MP's door
>until he and his friends try to put a stop to the
>refusal. Its that easy Marc. You'd be the toast of
>the town and I'd be ground dust. (Maybe) Go for it!! 

No Daniel, it's you that is upset, not me. 

>
>Think about that Marc and answer “The Question”.
>
>Tell us your answer. Go ahead! The newsgroup wants to know! 

Daniel, I'm not particularly interested your cause and choose to make no
comment whatsoever on The Question. But that doesn't make me a "bad"
person does it? 

>As for Marc's little bit of wanting me to answer his
>question, he pretends to have missed the object of the
>exercise. He hasn't of course, but the refusal is starting
>to get on Ottawa's nerves and they would really love to slow
>it down. 

Am I in Ottawa? No! Perhaps the paranoia is getting to you... 


>
>Here is my answer to Marc's question. When everyone has
>realized their duty and stopped paying taxes until we either
>use or dismantle our weaponry ("We" as in Humanity) there
>won't be any services to worry about. There won't be any
>services available period!! So get real Marc and think
>before asking your next "question". In the meantime may
>we have your answer to "The Question"? Assuming, of
>course, that your permitted to answer it!! 

Exactly, so why not stop using them now and really make a statement! 

>
>Let me help you a bit Marc. The counter to the scenario I
>offer is that you truly believe that there are so few people
>with backbone; that not more than mere hundreds will take
>advantage and we will all, legally, avoid filing returns or
>paying taxes - for ever!!
>
>But your wrong Marc. Canadians will join in the refusal
>as soon as they understand the depth of depravity that
>drove them to support societal insanity.
>
>All your telling us is that you believe Canada is populated
>by cowards who should not be exposed to the words of someone
>who means what he says. Now everyone will be thinking about
>this; for which I thank you.
>
>Re: The American Military developed the internet!!
>and here I a gentle soul, a Poet, seeking justice! :) :) :)
>Oooh! OooH!! OooHH!
>
>G'day Marc.
>
Gee Daniel, a very intelligent and well thought out response "ooh,
Oooh", couldn't you do better, maybe throw in some 4 letter words? 

*************

mj...@mail.awinc.com, Marc Joly, wrote: 

>Daniel, I'm not particularly interested in your cause and
>choose to make no comment whatsoever on “The Question”. 

tax...@planeteer.com (Daniel J. Lavigne) responds: 

Why then should any participant be concerned with
your outbursts Marc? “The Question” is very simple. 

“Does my birth as a human being truly condemn
me to paying taxes to or otherwise supporting
a society so cowardly and lost to the madness
of greed as to participate in plans and preparations
to wage nuclear war and risk thereby the murder
of hundreds of millions of defenceless fellow
human beings?” 

People choosing to participate in the refusal do so
because their answer reflects deep concerns as to the
course of humanity. With some 100+ million people
murdered this century alone due to societal cowardice
and the madness of greed, their answer, “NO!”, is the
only one that made sense to them. 

While you allow a portion of your taxes to be spent on
preparations to mass murder more millions, you have no
right to question our use of public services. You are,
after all, participating in “Crimes Against Humanity”. 

The law is explicit regarding such crime. I leave it to
you to decide what your legal status is vis-a-vis your
“right” to access “public services” while you fund
preparations to commit mass murder. 

You have no moral high ground in the matter Marc.
Stated simply, the refusal is lawful. It grows. 


Decision T2020-88 of The Federal Court Of Canada
and the Nuremberg judgement go hand in hand in
granting the colour of “Right” to, and speeding
the growth of, the refusal. 

We will not abandon our claim on any necessary
services. Our actions, to have you understand your
duty, pay for our use of those services. Should
any wish to discuss the value of such efforts,
feel free to do so.

When I choose to call you a coward, bastard,
hypocrite or such, I will do so openly Marc.
Your surrender to societal insanity does not
anger me. You're one of billions. 

As for the OooHs! that was expressing “Ah Poetic
Justice! Is it not truly delicious?” in another
form. The opportunity was too sweet to refuse!!
Four letter words? Not from me! Other than care,
grow, help, love, mend, pray and related.
Now, back to duty! 

Read “The Question”. Give your answer. 

Daniel J. Lavigne
Founder, Co-ordinator
International Humanity House
--
CLEARING ONE’S CONSCIENCE 

Why do thinkers bother you? Can they not see?
Your health is great, your job secure, your future worry free!
Reciting sports statistics; Viewing social plays;
Putting pedal to the metal; Speeding through your days. 

Neighbours . . . local objects; Seen through curtained glass.
Your shared concerns limited . . . To the price of gas.
Dismiss starving children; Their cross not yours to bear.
Their misery - not your fault. Why should you have shared?
Copyright. Feb 24/96 Daniel J. Lavigne 


--
THE POET’S SOUL IS DIFFERENT, FORMED BY THE FIRES OF LIFE,
IT GUIDES HIS PASSIONS, LEADS HIS HEART AND LIVES FOREVER!
Copyright. June 10, 1996 Daniel J. Lavigne 

mj...@mail.awinc.com 

16/03/1997 

>>Daniel, I'm not particularly interested in your cause and
>>choose to make no comment whatsoever on “The Question”.
>
>tax...@planeteer.com (Daniel J. Lavigne) responds:
>
>Why then should any participant be concerned with
>your outbursts Marc? “The Question” is very simple. 

oh, wait a minute, simply because I ask you a question that you cannot
adequately answer I'm making "outburts". Let's not lose sight of my
initial enquiry! I guess any others of us that aren't interested in you
"question" should leave this NG to you? 


>When I choose to call you a coward, bastard,
>hypocrite or such, I will do so openly Marc. 

Yes, and on the other hand you and your "humanity house" proclaim
yourself to be openly accepting "with grace" differences with others.
Basically, you don't have the ability to acknowledge my differing point
of view on your actions. You think you are noble - I think you are
unwilling to really make a strong statement and NOT USE THE SERVICES OF
THE SO-CALLED CORRUPT SYSTEM THAT YOU REJECT! You have a very dangerous
flaw, Daniel. Your lack of acceptance of my differing point of view is a
flaw that makes you no better that a typical racist - if I'm different
from you - I'm no damn good - that's what you've said. So your "open"
about it, big deal! I really wonder who is the "real" hypocrite? The
answer is clear to me! 

>
>As for the OooHs! that was expressing “Ah Poetic
>Justice! Is it not truly delicious?” in another
>form. The opportunity was too sweet to refuse!! 

Frankly, it was just goofy, sorry to let you know it was not witty. 

>Four letter words? Not from me! Other than care,
>grow, help, love, mend, pray and related.
>Now, back to duty! 


mj...@mail.awinc.com, Marc Joly, angered that the tax
refusal inspired by Decision T2020-88 of The Federal
Court Of Canada continues to grow; and embarrassed by 

the publication of his answer to “The Question”, wrote: 

>>>Daniel, I'm not particularly interested in your cause and
>>>choose to make no comment whatsoever on “The Question”. 

>>Why then should any participant be concerned with 

>>your outbursts Marc? “The Question” is very simple. 

>You think you are noble - I think you are unwilling to 

>really make a strong statement and NOT USE THE SERVICES
>OF THE SO-CALLED CORRUPT SYSTEM THAT YOU REJECT! 

Wrong again Marc. I addressed your concerns several
times. To wit: I claim the absolute and non-negotiable
right to use all “public services”. 

I also claim that a society participating in plans to
commit mass murder, has no need of “public services”;
that such a society be made to choose between total
use or dismantling of all weapons of mass murder. 

Your answer to “The Question” will tell you why
the issue has you so angry Marc. Here it is: 

“Does my birth as a human being truly condemn
me to paying taxes to or otherwise supporting
a society so cowardly and lost to the madness
of greed as to participate in plans and preparations
to wage nuclear war and risk thereby the murder
of hundreds of millions of defenceless fellow
human beings?” 

Answer in keeping with the worth of your
existence, and you will live your answer. 

Daniel J. Lavigne
Founder, Co-ordinator
International Humanity House
--
SPIRIT'S MISSILES

Do they exist,
These forces on which we rely,

Those great unknowns
For which we have murdered . .
And prayed?

Do they laugh at our ways?
Or cry?

Copyright. 1989 Daniel J. Lavigne 


--
THE POET’S SOUL IS DIFFERENT, FORMED BY THE FIRES OF LIFE,
IT GUIDES HIS PASSIONS, LEADS HIS HEART AND LIVES FOREVER!
Copyright. June 10, 1996 Daniel J. Lavigne 

Derek Nalecki 

17/03/1997 


In article <3329AD...@planeteer.com>, "Daniel J. Lavigne" <tax...@planeteer.com> says:
>
>nale...@cadvision.com (Derek Nalecki) wrote:
>
>tax...@planeteer.com (Daniel J. Lavigne) wrote:
>
>>>: Greed is to politics as lies are to taxes.
>
>>>: "The Question";
>
>>>: “Does my birth as a human being truly condemn
>>>: me to paying taxes to or otherwise supporting
>>>: a society so cowardly and lost to the madness
>>>: of greed as to participate in plans and preparations
>>>: to wage nuclear war and risk thereby the murder
>>>: of hundreds of millions of defenceless fellow
>>>: human beings?”
>snipped
>
>>I do not disagree with the facts on nuclear weapons
>>posted here, only with interpretation. Clearly in a
>>world where madmen like Saddam Hussein, possession of
>>any weapon is simple prudence.
>snipped
>
>tax...@planeteer.com (Daniel J. Lavigne) responds:
>
>With the continuing development of madmen and
>allegiance to madmen, the total and all-out use
>of all weapons of mass murder seems unavoidable. 

Which is why every rational nation should have some means of deterring
those madmen (after all it did work with the madmen in charge of Soviet
Union) - and that would seem some nuclear capability of our own.
Of course a lot better methid would be actual *defense* against an
attack. But last time someone proposed one, the same leftist sh*tcrew
that is now screeching about "madmen with nukes" killed it with ridicule,
branding it "Star Wars" and such.
One wonders what are leftists such as Lavigne _really_ after. Is it a
same and secure world, or a victory of those very madmen - most of whom
are, naturally, socialist. 

[more snipped] 

Back the the real issue of tax refusal. 

>
>The tax refusal, folks, may have been started too
>late. The madness of greed, mixed with billions 

It is never too late. We can still organize a large tax-refusal movement.
But lets make sure that we are on a firm footing, as far as moral issues
are concerned.
First of all all, IMO it is immoral to refuse to pay the taxes that go
towards maitenance of our civilization, while at the same time partaking
in the benefits of this civilization (yes, hermits _are_ excused ;-) 

As of financial year 1995 (ended on March 31st 1996), the amount of
taxes which the governments of Canada (federal and provincial) spent on
benefits which each of us receives, and which maintain our way of life
were: 

federal averaged provincial
Protection of person and property
(defense, police, fire fighting, etc) $11,440 $3,332
Governemnt administration $6,744 $600
Justice $3,408 $3,889
Transportation $2,153 $8,454

Total $23,745 $16,275 

Overall $40,020 


Which comes out to $1,334 per person. 

All of the taxes above that amount (include all taxes CPP, UIC, GST,etc)
are discretionary and mostly consist of income transfer from people who
work for a living - code name "the Rich" - to people who will not:
the network of middlemen, "activists", "advocates" and civil servants -
welfare nomenklatura feeding at the trough, in exchange for political
support it offered to welfare politicos.
Those amount can (morally) and should protested and should one feel so
withheld. Understand I am not looking for martyrs or cannon fodder, the
way the left does. Any opposition, any level of opposition should be left
to each individual. But clearly any amout paid over and above what pays
for benefits each individual receives is extortion, pure and simple. 

[more snips] 

>
>Piss on the hypocrites!! Join the refusal and tell
>such cowardly bastards exactly where they can go!
>To their masters backsides with ready tongues!! 

Hear, hear. 


derek n, RdNck, Pen-Arm of the Righteous, esq. 

"Never initiate force against another. _That_ should be the underlying
principle of your life. But should someone do violence to you, retaliate
without hesitation, without reservation, without quarter, until you are
sure that he will never wish to harm - or never be capable of harming
- you or yours again."
(F. Paul Wilson - 'THE SECOND BOOK OF KYFHO; Revised Eastern Sect Edition')
********************* MY OTHER COMPUTER IS A LAP-TOP ******************* 

David M. Sherman 

17/03/1997 


Metamorphosis wrote: 

> we live within such a society where our governors, that
> is - the federal government,
> continues to withhold those reasons, ways and means - why personal income
> taxes are as such as they
> are. I have requested repeatedly since October of 1996, to receive any
> semblance of algorithms/models
> ontowards our governor's establishment of personal income taxation
> brackets. To this day, not so much as
> a reply has yet been forthcoming. I have asked for justification - for
> numbers, for figures, for calculations
> (read: algorithms and models), yet, nothing has since been forthcoming. I
> am about to bring this matter to the
> attention of our Access to Information Act - though such an endeavor may
> realistically - be futile - lest our
> governors honour such a mechanism. Only time will tell indeed. However,
> after 3-4 enquiries, no answer
> has as of yet, been forthcoming. 

If you want a reply, you should indeed make the request under the Access
to Information Act (and pay the $5). That's what it's there for. It's a
first resort for queries such as the one you've described, not a last
resort, and it should get you some results. 

Some of the information you're looking for is already available from two
major sources: Department of Finance publications and Canadian Tax
Foundation publications. 

The Department of Finance uses a variety of methods in setting tax
policy, including statistical analysis based on a computer model of the
economy (I forget the details, but the model is publicly available).
Some of this has been written up in materal published by the Canadian
Tax Foundation. The Foundation has also published extensive material on
public finance in general, including statistical information and
comparative fiscal figures. (Canadian tax rates are always set with one
eye to what other countries are doing, due to the mobility of labour.) I
also recall a paper by Neil Brooks (though I can't remember where)
discussing the specific computer model that Finance uses in making
decisions. 

Explanations of the reasons behind tax policy appear in numerous
documents from Finance. A good consolidation of these documents,
organized by the section of the Income Tax Act to which they apply, can
be found in my annual book, "Income Tax Act: Department of Finance
Technical Notes". In addition to the technical notes, the book includes
extensive material from Department of Finance press releases, budget
documents, Regulatory Impact Analysis Statements and various other
sources, and includes my annotations. The book is published by Carswell
(8th edition, fall 1996, costs $120; see http://www.carswell.com), and
can be found in law libraries. The material under section 117 provides
some of the answers you are looking for. In particular, note that the
decisions taken in 1987 to set the current brackets were not solely
decisions of the Department of Finance; the House of Commons and Senate
standing finance committees both examined the question in detail. 

There is also an annual Finance publication called "Tax Expenditures",
available free from the Department of Finance Distribution Centre
(613-995-2855), which quantifies the "cost" of hundreds of specific tax
preferences, deductions, credits, non-inclusions into income,
exemptions, etc. It forms part of the basis for any decisions made in
revising tax policy. 

David Sherman
Tax Lawyer & Author
Editor, "Income Tax Act: Department of Finance Technical Notes" (8th
ed., 1996) 

mj...@mail.awinc.com 

17/03/1997 


In article <
332CD8...@planeteer.com>, tax...@planeteer.com says... 


>
>mj...@mail.awinc.com, Marc Joly, angered that the tax
>refusal inspired by Decision T2020-88 of The Federal
>Court Of Canada continues to grow; and embarrassed by
>the publication of his answer to “The Question”, wrote:
>
>>>>Daniel, I'm not particularly interested in your cause and
>>>>choose to make no comment whatsoever on “The Question”. 

Daniel, once again you are writing things about me that are simply not
true.
I guess any interested readers of this "discussion" (well, at least on
my
part, name-calling and abuse on your part) can figure this out for
themselves, but for you.. If I say I choose to make no comment on "The
Question" how could I possibly be saying that in anger or embarrassment
in
retort to an apparent "previous" publication of my answer? That IS my
answer. So wise up and tell the truth... 


>>You think you are noble - I think you are unwilling to
>>really make a strong statement and NOT USE THE SERVICES
>>OF THE SO-CALLED CORRUPT SYSTEM THAT YOU REJECT!
>
>Wrong again Marc. I addressed your concerns several
>times. To wit: I claim the absolute and non-negotiable
>right to use all “public services”. 

I realize you do that, but you have NEVER, EVER discussed your rationale
for
doing so in any fashion. How about this "I claim the absolute and
non-negotiable right to all the profits of the Royal Bank for the fiscal
year 1996". I've said it, thus it is FACT... makes about as much sense
as
what you are saying. Hey... I'm now a billionaire... 

>Your answer to “The Question” will tell you why
>the issue has you so angry Marc. Here it is: 

Once again Daniel, I'm not angry... I'm at peace with myself and the
world... 

Daniel J. Lavigne 

17/03/1997 


mj...@mail.awinc.com, Marc Joly, wrote:
nale...@cadvision.com (Derek Nalecki) wrote: 

>>What you seem to be telling me is that a decision NOT
>>to pay income taxes is a PROTEST against "...societal
>>insanity...", with the eventual outcome of stopping it.
>>I don't argue your reasoning in this - your reasons may be >>perfectly valid for you and quite honorable. However, I 

>>still don't buy your use of services provided by tax
>>dollars during this period of protest! You are saying
>>that you will not contribute monetarily to a society
>>bent on preparation and capacity to murder millions of
>>their neighbours - yet you will still partake in those
>>"other things" that that VERY SAME society provides you
>>with. This is a total cop-out! If I supported your cause
>>to the extent that you feel I should - I couldn't possibly >>rationalize using ANY of these services because to do so
>>would be "consorting with the enemy". 

>Good point. As I said in my other post the taxes that pay
>for the basic benefits we all receive, benefits which are
>- and likely always will be - part of maintaining a
>civilized society, should be paid. But that still leaves
>majority of today's taxes, which go for either discretionary
>or outright unsavory spending. And protesting by withholding
>those has the added advantage of beying morally justifiable. 

tax...@planeteer.com (Daniel J. Lavigne) responds: 

First. To Marc Joly. He seems to believe that I accused
him of being less than human. Not so. He is very human. 

The tax refusal is not a protest. It is the result
of a belief that humanity, lost to reason, must be
brought to such a state of painful existence that a
decision to use or dismantle all of its weapons of
mass murder will be made. 

Many are angered that I will not renounce use of
“public services” while working all out to cause that
event. They should be aware that such use is designed
to provoke greater response and participation in what
most governments thought would simply pass with time. 

The tax refusal is an action that will lead to the
accomplishment of its stated goals. The awakening or
termination of human life on the planet. 

I have, in many other posts, stated my beliefs that
taxes should be increased to the point that life is
lived in acceptable fashion by all, if we choose to
dismantle. To do any less is to invite a re-occurence
of our madness. To expect any less is to mock our
humanity. 

Some say they are morally justified in witholding support
from the homeless and such as they all had opportunities
to prosper; that they are morally justified in providing
the minimum of health care as public support of needed
efforts is too costly to specific groups of “taxpayers”.
They also claim that moral justification for refusing to
support a society participating in plans and preparations
to murder millions of their neighbors is not possible due
to the “fact” that “public morality” is governed by the
“standards of the majority”. I find such claims extremely
interesting and leave it to others to agree or disagree. 

We are left, it seems, with cross-purposes and opinions
of what is morally permissible and that which is morally
repugnant while we progress to final use of our weapons.
We are left with the quandary of “The Question”: 

“Does my birth as a human being truly condemn
me to paying taxes to or otherwise supporting
a society so cowardly and lost to the madness
of greed as to participate in plans and preparations
to wage nuclear war and risk thereby the murder
of hundreds of millions of defenceless fellow
human beings?” 

Answer in keeping with the worth of your 

existence, and you will live your answer. 

And, in the living of your answer, you will help
humanity to choose between hope and hopelessness. 

Daniel J. Lavigne
Founder, Co-ordinator
International Humanity House
--
TO DUTY 

What is one’s duty
When acknowledging a threat
That would destroy all beauty
Even steal children's breath?
Does therein lie evil
In avoiding a way
That forces the matter
That builds to a day
When humanity shatters
Greed’s guilty ways? 

Copyright. February 21/88 Daniel J. Lavigne 


--
THE POET’S SOUL IS DIFFERENT, FORMED BY THE FIRES OF LIFE,
IT GUIDES HIS PASSIONS, LEADS HIS HEART AND LIVES FOREVER!
Copyright. June 10, 1996 Daniel J. Lavigne 

mj...@mail.awinc.com 

17/03/1997 


In article <5giq0j$
3e...@elmo.cadvision.com>, nale...@cadvision.com
says...

>Back the the real issue of tax refusal. 

>It is never too late. We can still organize a large tax-refusal 

movement.
>But lets make sure that we are on a firm footing, as far as moral
issues
>are concerned.
>First of all all, IMO it is immoral to refuse to pay the taxes that go
>towards maitenance of our civilization, while at the same time
partaking
>in the benefits of this civilization (yes, hermits _are_ excused ;-) 

Now this seems to be a reasonable answer to the REAL issue. 

>
>As of financial year 1995 (ended on March 31st 1996), the amount of
>taxes which the governments of Canada (federal and provincial) spent on
>benefits which each of us receives, and which maintain our way of life
>were:
>
> federal averaged
provincial
>Protection of person and property
>(defense, police, fire fighting, etc) $11,440 $3,332
>Governemnt administration $6,744 $600
>Justice $3,408 $3,889
>Transportation $2,153 $8,454
>
>Total $23,745 $16,275
>
>Overall $40,020
>
>
>Which comes out to $1,334 per person. 

I'm just curious, where did you find your stats? Not a criticism of
them, it's just that if you publish your source, people are more likely
to believe them. 

>
>All of the taxes above that amount (include all taxes CPP, UIC,
GST,etc)
>are discretionary and mostly consist of income transfer from people who
>work for a living - code name "the Rich" - to people who will not:
>the network of middlemen, "activists", "advocates" and civil servants -
>welfare nomenklatura feeding at the trough, in exchange for political
>support it offered to welfare politicos.
>Those amount can (morally) and should protested and should one feel so
>withheld. Understand I am not looking for martyrs or cannon fodder, the
>way the left does. Any opposition, any level of opposition should be
left
>to each individual. But clearly any amout paid over and above what pays
>for benefits each individual receives is extortion, pure and simple. 

I agree with your sentiments to a large extent, but maybe not with the
same voracity as you. This was my point with Daniel (in the very
beginning) - certain services are enjoyed by all of us and very few of
us would have a problem paying a certain amount to maintain them - the
cost, as you've outlined above is very low. As you've said, I too
believe it is immoral NOT to pay taxes for these things, while partaking
in them. I agree that we should not be taxed to pay for "those who WILL
not work", but maybe we should pay a small amount to those who CANNOT
work. This illustrates the issue that "value" is a very subjective term
- your list may be different from mine and the next persons. This is not
insurmountable though, hell, I'd pay two or three times your net
amount/per person to help cover some of my neighbours needs, even if I
didn't think I required them - I'd still be much, much farther ahead
than I am now!!! 

Thank you for getting the discussion back on track! 

Daniel J. Lavigne 

18/03/1997 

>nale...@cadvision.com (Derek Nalecki) wrote:
>tax...@planeteer.com (Daniel J. Lavigne) wrote: 

>>With the continuing development of madmen and
>>allegiance to madmen, the total and all-out use
>>of all weapons of mass murder seems unavoidable. 

>Which is why every rational nation should have some
>means of deterring those madmen (after all it did work
>with the madmen in charge of Soviet Union) - and that
>would seem some nuclear capability of our own. 

Societal insanity has come full circle. 

With China a mere 10 years from having a nuclear
weapons and delivery system equal to the USA and
its NATO allies, will it then be declared a hostile,
irrational nation, the citizens of which will then
be subject to threat of instant incineration? 

Will other nations, having access to the Internet, be
similarly labeled due to the ability of any to access
the composition of easily manufactured compounds that
can be transmitted as elements of chlorine re-active
binarys through municipal water systems; binarys that,
on exiting any water tap, will cause a fatal reaction
in any mammal exposed to minute amounts of fumes? 

What happens to property values, orderly society,
investments, schools, hospitals, etc., when such
concoctions begin to be used by those who realize
that access to thousands of waiting wallets and
silent homes is just a potion away? 

The concept of “civilization” was great. The
practice dismal. We have murdered 100+ millions
of our fellow human beings this century alone. 

Risking total use or dismantling of our weapons of mass
murder offers our only chance of worthwhile survival. 

“The Question”, properly answered by massive numbers,
grants us that chance. Anything else is a waste of
time delaying the inevitable. Here it is: 

“Does my birth as a human being truly condemn
me to paying taxes to or otherwise supporting
a society so cowardly and lost to the madness
of greed as to participate in plans and preparations
to wage nuclear war and risk thereby the murder
of hundreds of millions of defenceless fellow
human beings?” 

Answer in keeping with the worth of
your existence, live your answer. 

An aside. 

Some newsgroup followers have suggested, with supporting
reasons absent of animus, that I should simply accept my
special position at law due to Decision T2020-88 and abandon
efforts to wake humanity to what I consider the moral
imperative of the day. I am receptive to other
similar/dissenting opinions. 

Daniel J. Lavigne
Founder, Co-ordinator
International Humanity House
--
TO DUTY 

What is one’s duty
When acknowledging a threat
That would destroy all beauty
Even steal children's breath?
Does therein lie evil
In avoiding a way
That forces the matter
That builds to a day
When humanity shatters
Greed’s guilty ways? 

Copyright. February 21/88 Daniel J. Lavigne 

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18/03/1997 

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mj...@mail.awinc.com, Marc Joly wrote:
nale...@cadvision.com wrote: 

>>Back to the real issue of tax refusal. 

>>It is never too late. We can still organize a large
>>tax-refusal movement.
>>But lets make sure that we are on a firm footing,
>>as far as moral issues are concerned.
>>First of all all, IMO it is immoral to refuse to pay
>>the taxes that go towards maitenance of our civilization,
>>while at the same time partaking in the benefits of this >>civilization (yes, hermits _are_ excused ;-) 

>Now this seems to be a reasonable answer to the REAL issue. 

snipped 

>Thank you for getting the discussion back on track! 

tax...@planeteer.com (Daniel J. Lavigne) responds: 

I agree that every capable person should support the
funding of societal necessities. I take it one step
further and state that, practicing due diligence, we
should be satisfied with actions taken on society’s
behalf by those committed to public service. 

So far, so good. The problem, one that seems beyond
resolution due to our propensity for murdering each
other with quick ease and efficiency, is the use of
public funds to finance participation in plans and
preparations that, to my mind, state that nothing
we have done is of consequence or enduring value. 

That concern is etched on my soul. I could no sooner
assist any society continuing what I perceive to be
madness than I could hesitate before re-entering
the icy waters of a raging log jam to save a friend.
The same spirit that saw me enter such waters, drives
my refusal. Life should mean something. Because it
does mean something, at least to me, I will not
allow any to unilaterally set rules, regulations
or laws that participants in the refusal must
totally abandon society. Any action towards such
is a declaration of war on humanity. One that I
will fight with much more than soft words. 

Many are confused by the meaning of “rights”. I
have never encountered that problem. 

“Rights” are what you will kill and die for without a
moment’s hesitation. They are neither granted, given
or accepted. None should be surprised by this statement.
I am not a pacifist. I am a realist who has seen what
societal cowardice multiplied by the grab of greed can
do to egos and desires. 

It is due to such that greed’s henchmen have always
relied on the young, the quick and naive to do the
bidding of those who lust for power and control. 

Many, not yet part of the refusal, say it is needed.
They agree that it should continue. How then do we
resolve use of public services in an acceptable fashion,
while remaining true to the need for the refusal and to
hasten the spread of the refusal? Many, wanting to
participate in a fulsome manner are hesitant because
of that very reason. 

Some say that it is best that a means of ready
identification for taxpayers and other societal
supporters should be undertaken soonest so as to
minimize potentially fractious mix-ups due to this
matter. That approach is fraught with problems. The
government, not willing to discuss the matter, hopes
that it will just end without causing too great a
tumult. That hope is without foundation. 

Citizens, therefore, should develop, on an individual
basis, an ethos on how to interact with each other;
accepting that those motivated to refuse to support
a society participating in the vilest of preparations
should not be shunned or forced to abandon their
constructive involvement in everyday affairs. 

Many, both publicly and privately, have offered differing
views of the matter as a problem without solution other
than a division of society. If that is required, so be it. 

Daniel J. Lavigne
Founder, Co-ordinator
International Humanity House
--
TO DUTY 

What is one’s duty
When acknowledging a threat
That would destroy all beauty
Even steal children's breath?
Does therein lie evil
In avoiding a way
That forces the matter
That builds to a day
When humanity shatters
Greed’s guilty ways? 

Copyright. February 21/88 Daniel J. Lavigne

--
THE POET’S SOUL IS DIFFERENT, FORMED BY THE FIRES OF LIFE,
IT GUIDES HIS PASSIONS, LEADS HIS HEART AND LIVES FOREVER!
Copyright. June 10, 1996 Daniel J. Lavigne 

Tammy Belle 

18/03/1997 


Daniel J. Lavigne wrote:
> [snip] 


> With China a mere 10 years from having a nuclear
> weapons and delivery system equal to the USA and
> its NATO allies, will it then be declared a hostile,
> irrational nation, the citizens of which will then
> be subject to threat of instant incineration? [snip] 

What does this has to do with can.taxes ? 

BTW, China have been denoting nuclear weapons for more than 20 years!
They have also sent a number of satellite to space. 

ie. they already have the weapon and the delivery system you decribed for
many years. 

Daniel J. Lavigne 

19/03/1997 


Tammy Belle <ta...@belle.com> wrote:
tax...@planeteer.com (Daniel J. Lavigne) wrote: 

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The thread relates to our love affair with violence. 

China’s nuclear program has achieved a degree of parity
with comparable programs in Britain and France. Warhead
weights and dated missile technology had been holding
China back from developing as a “True Threat” to any
“Nuclear Nation” not comfortable with its growing stance
of assertiveness in the community of nations. 

Canada’s trade-off, two Candus for guaranteed investment
returns for a Canadian insurance company, will quickly
supply China with Tritium. An element needed for the
development of much smaller, much more powerful nuclear
warheads. That downsizing of warhead size and weight while
providing several magnitudes of greater explosive potential
for any nuclear device leads to faster delivery times from
point of launching. That very speed is relied upon to defeat
anti-missile defences. With smaller warheads and total overall weight
reductions comes the added benefit of greater accuracy
from inertial guidance systems. 

China’s missile program continues to grow. Combined with what
some say is a superior understanding of chemical/biological
weapons including the possession of large stores of a toxin
that, unimaginably, may have superior dispersal, adhesion and
lethality than America’s infamous WX compound, China has
replaced a defunct USSR as America’s partner on the teeter
totter of global insanity. (You may wish to review my earlier
predictions of Albright’s statement yesterday with regard to
NATO’s easterly expansion.) (I have made many such predictions.
All of which, unfortunately, have proven true.) 

Given the predictable flow of stable air currents over
North America, China has a strategic advantage over the
US dominated NATO alliance vis-a-vis use of such weapons.
Even now the western world fears the quiet development and
use of toxins released from rented aircraft upwind from major
cities that would wreak their devastation overnight without
raising any alarms. That is why we permitted large amounts
of Asian immigrants. That, surely, such weaponry could not
then be used? Some call it surrendering to insanity. 

Such is the state of humanity to-day. A state permitted
to developed because men have always been too cowardly to
say “NO!” to those they believed were their “superiors”. 

Finally. Why can.taxes? I began the first meaningful tax
refusal in the western world. The premise is basic. Only
fools or cowards will support continuation of the status
quo. I believe it is much better to risk total use of all
weapons of mass murder than to continue the lies of the
past. We know what we are capable of doing in the name of
our nations. Let’s find out what we will do in the name of
our numbers. The tax refusal will end with all-out use or
dismantling of our weapons of mass murder. 

That is what this is all about Tammy. That and the cowardice
of man through time that allowed local bullys to control the
very lives of their neighbors. I said “Enough!”. I meant it. 

Just one question. I notice that your response was your first article.
Why did you specifically choose the tax refusal? Now
“The Question”. Here it is: 

“Does my birth as a human being truly condemn
me to paying taxes to or otherwise supporting
a society so cowardly and lost to the madness
of greed as to participate in plans and preparations
to wage nuclear war and risk thereby the murder
of hundreds of millions of defenceless fellow
human beings?” 

Answer in keeping with the worth of
your existence, live your answer. 

Daniel J. Lavigne 


Founder, Co-ordinator
International Humanity House
--
TO DUTY 

What is one’s duty
When acknowledging a threat
That would destroy all beauty
Even steal children's breath?
Does therein lie evil
In avoiding a way
That forces the matter
That builds to a day
When humanity shatters
Greed’s guilty ways? 

Copyright. February 21/88 Daniel J. Lavigne
--
THE POET’S SOUL IS DIFFERENT, FORMED BY THE FIRES OF LIFE,
IT GUIDES HIS PASSIONS, LEADS HIS HEART AND LIVES FOREVER!
Copyright. June 10, 1996 Daniel J. Lavigne 

Anonomous 

19/03/1997 


Daniel J. Lavigne wrote: 

> = 

> May we have your answer to =93The Question=94? Here it is:
> = 

> =93Does my birth as a human being truly condemn 


> me to paying taxes to or otherwise supporting
> a society so cowardly and lost to the madness
> of greed as to participate in plans and preparations
> to wage nuclear war and risk thereby the murder
> of hundreds of millions of defenceless fellow
> human beings?=94
> = 

> Daniel J. Lavigne
> Founder, Co-ordinator
> International Humanity House
> > = 

> May we have your answer to =93The Question=94? Here it is:
> = 

> =93Does my birth as a human being truly condemn
> me to paying taxes to or otherwise supporting
> a society so cowardly and lost to the madness
> of greed as to participate in plans and preparations
> to wage nuclear war and risk thereby the murder
> of hundreds of millions of defenceless fellow
> human beings?=94
> = 

> Daniel J. Lavigne
> Founder, Co-ordinator
> International Humanity House
> --
> THE SALIVATORS
> = 

> Sheep like humanity, howling as wolves.
> To evil deferring, destroying the good.
> = 

> As foulmouthed cowards, wasting their breath
> Flashing fools fashions, ignoring the threat,
> = 

> Of a flash that will fashion . . .
> Humanity=92s death.
> = 

> Copyright. Feb. 15, 1988 Daniel J. Lavigne 


Lawrence Non-Gonadus, of SSIB, in message
<3330a4aa...@nntp.mala.bc.ca>, scrawled: 

Your nuts Lavigne. 

tax...@planeteer.com (Daniel J. Lavigne) responds:
(quite unfairly - I am laughing so much as I write
that, truly, how will I defend myself?? :) :)! 

But!!! Lad Lawrence Non-Gonadus Sherman was responding to
an attack on his leige, mentor and goodies supplier! So!

Flood the dry deck for wan Laddy Lawrence!
He of short measure and dried bag to boot! 

All hail to Lad Lawrence And his unc with the gold.
That he’s a sea dandy Should well stay untold. 

The tales of the barrel With his backside so bold!
Is a story he promised Would never be told!! 

But here’s to the salt! The prince of the sea.
The ass of Lad Lawrence And his lips so free!! 

Give up oh Lordy! You poor little twit.
I have your entry And your lousy SAT script!! 

My name is Daniel! That sweet little guy!
Who hired your mother! And waved your judges goodbye!! 

And screwed your lawyers, Who paid all the fees
For whores, (their wives!) Who made me happy!! 

So here’s to Lame Lawrence! Keep signing those checks!
And tell Sherman so dickless You’ll make friends here yet!! 

Bye! Bye! Poor Bumsy! Poor Lawrence The Loose!
All ports have shared Your Bum For A Goose! 

Poor Bumsy! Poor Whumsy! On the floor on your knees!
Greased for the goose!! At SSIB! 

Best Back To The Sands Oh Streaky Smeared Nit!!
To The Tent With The Boy, The Camel And Mitt!! 

While you pounder (or it) Here’s a wonder! Do think!
If I’ve been too hard Can you pay for your shrink? 

Enough of the fun! It’s truly not fair!
For Lad is a lawyer!! . . . With a mind oh so bare!! 

Copyright. March 20, 1997 Daniel J. Lavigne 

So here you be Lawrence, answer the
question and all is forgiven! 

“Does my birth as a Boy, Camel Or Mitt lover truly 

condemn me to paying taxes to or otherwise supporting
sodomizers so cowardly and lost to the madness 

of greed as to participate in plans and preparations
to wage nuclear war and risk thereby the murder
of hundreds of millions of defenceless fellow
Boy, Camel Or Mitt lovers?” 

Answer in keeping with the worth of your sorry
existence Laddie Lawrence. Include your camel. 

Daniel J. Lavigne
Founder, Co-ordinator
International Humanity House 

Daniel J. Lavigne 

21/03/1997 


Richard Quesnel, <ri...@fox.nstn.ca>, discounting
the worth of his existence, glossed: 

>I belong in this country, you don't... Pack up and move
>to some little unhabitated island and start your new world
>of "tax free" citizens... See how long you will exist. 

>. . . listen carefully, Revenue Canada is closing in on
>you... Gee you might not be able to use your computer to
>try an corrupt other law abiding canadians. 

tax...@planeteer.com (Daniel J. Lavigne) responds: 

Richard confirms the worst aspects of the spread of
societal cowardice. Lost to the madness of greed, he
trembles at the very thought of a revolution leading
individuals to think of the long term. 

He has no trust in those who contribute to his support for
his nation’s participation in plans to commit mass murder. 

He fears that the greed that led humanity to create
its weapons of mass murder may also lead the majority
to use decision T2020-88 so as to have more cash on hand
as the growing refusal leads to a worldwide financial
collapse. 

Aware that the growing refusal threatens his financial
well-being, he is now considering the early sale of his
government saving bonds etc. 

His comments dictate our belief that he would
answer “YES!” to “The Question”? Here it is: 

“Does my birth as a human being truly condemn 


me to paying taxes to or otherwise supporting
a society so cowardly and lost to the madness 


of greed as to participate in plans and preparations
to wage nuclear war and risk thereby the murder
of hundreds of millions of defenceless fellow
human beings?” 

Should he, on reflection, realize that his answer
brands him as one to whom life is worthless, will
he then explain why others should support his
misery? Never. He is, indeed, a “Salivator”. 

Daniel J. Lavigne
Founder, Co-ordinator
International Humanity House
--
THE SALIVATORS 

Sheep like humanity, howling as wolves.
To evil deferring, destroying the good. 

As foulmouthed cowards, wasting their breath 

Flashing fools fashions, ignoring the threat, 

Of a flash that will fashion . . .
Humanity’s death. 

Cpoyright Feb. 15/88 Daniel J. Lavigne 

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21/03/1997 


Brian Lau <75504.745@CompuServe.COM> wrote: 

>Please use this usenet group for tax topics only! 

tax...@planeteer.com (Daniel J. Lavigne) responds: 

Thank you Brian. 

May we have your answer to “The Question”? Here it is: 

“Does my birth as a human being truly condemn
me to paying taxes to or otherwise supporting
a society so cowardly and lost to the madness
of greed as to participate in plans and preparations
to wage nuclear war and risk thereby the murder
of hundreds of millions of defenceless fellow
human beings?” 

Daniel J. Lavigne
Founder, Co-ordinator
International Humanity House
--
THE SALIVATORS 

Sheep like humanity, howling as wolves.
To evil deferring, destroying the good. 

As foulmouthed cowards, wasting their breath
Flashing fools fashions, ignoring the threat, 

Of a flash that will fashion . . .
Humanity’s death. 

Copyright. Feb. 15, 1988 Daniel J. Lavigne
--
THE POET’S SOUL IS DIFFERENT, FORMED BY THE FIRES OF LIFE,
IT GUIDES HIS PASSIONS, LEADS HIS HEART AND LIVES FOREVER!
Copyright. June 10, 1996 Daniel J. Lavigne 

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Keith Medcalf 

24/03/1997 


In <
33377510...@allnews.nbnet.nb.ca>, cha...@nbnet.nb.ca (D.Chase) writes: 

>But, yes, your birth as a human being generally , unless you're like
>the French guy, condemns you to paying taxes.. 

Interesting. I asked God about this and she said that it wasn't so. 

On what authority do you base your statement? 

Perhaps your (Improper adjective removed.) slaves have to do as you direct out of fear you will
beat them senseless, however, not being a (Improper adjective removed.) slave, I am not nor can
I be motivated by those sorts of threats. 

In fact, if you used threats of violence in order to coerce me to do
something which I chose not to do, you would be guilty of a Criminal
offence and sitting in the bighouse (more likely lying with your face in
the pillow because you were "told" to do that by someone in
"authority"). 

You may *choose* to pay taxes or you may *choose* not to pay taxes. 

There is absolutely no way on this planet you can be *forced* or
*condemned* to pay taxes. It quite simply is not possible. For if one
refuses to pay taxes then no amount of torture will convince him to do
so, and you will be wasting your time in the attempt. 

>as to nuclear war, you must be one of those stars and stripes
>Americans., cause the rest of the planet still has no plans to wage
>nuclear war.....so, move to Canada, and follow in the footsteps of 

God, are you really as stupid as you appear? Probably. 

>some really great Americans who have enriched their lives and ours
>immeasurably, simply by contributing to such a dynamic and
>interesting and non-threatened society, one which is truly based on
>principles other than being Yankee traders....and nuclear war mongers
>of course.... 

Principles? There are no principles in Canada. In Canada, the only
principle is that he who can purchase the fuller measure of Justice is
entitled to do as he wishes; and that if you are lucky enough to be
associated with the Despotic Dictatorship (which the common proletariat
call the "elected government") you can do anything which you please
without regard to morals or ethics or Law. 

The only Principle in Canada is: He who has the Gold makes the Rules. 

And then you have the unmitigated audacity to get upset when your young
follow the example you have so well demonstrated by going out to rape
and pillage at their fancy. After all, in Canada, the absolute right of
the People and the Despot to rape and pillage, answerable only to God,
is the paramount principle of the operation of YOUR despotic fascist
government. 

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IBM OS/2, LAN Server, DB2/2, TCP/IP, DOS, Windows, Windows NT
IBM System Management Software Specialist IBM BESTeam Member
IBM OS/2 Warp Server Software Specialist
Finger or email kmedca...@dessus.com for my PGP Public Key
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Daniel J. Lavigne 

24/03/1997 

Other recipients: golf...@idirect.com 


golf...@idirect.com wrote: 

>Yes David your birth does condemn you to pay taxes and
>until you, I and all of us perish in a nuclear holocust
>let's get back to something we may be able to control....Cdn.
>taxes...in the meanwhile remember Shakespeare..'tis a tale
>told by an idiot ... full of sound and fury..signifying
>nothing"...good luck with your crusade now back to CDN
>TAXES!!!!!! 

tax...@planeteer.com (Daniel J. Lavigne) responds: 

The very existence of nuclear weapons smears all
of humanity with the slime of cowards’ crap; the
vile stench of secretions by those who branded
themselves when first abandoning their duty to
force an end to the insanity now sticks to
their souls and their offspring. 

What, do tell us, golf...@idirect.com, have you ever
done in your life that was in constructive opposition
to societal insanity? Have you ever recognized the
existence of such plans and preparations as a prime
indicator of the depth of our madness?? Does golf so
take you away from it all? 

“We may be able to control Can taxes”? How? You can do
nothing without courage to think of the matter first. 

What has changed that you would now say such after
accepting the insanity for years? You do so because
of the anger aroused by your fear of living the only
acceptable answer to “The Question”! ie. It is being
asked and acted on every day!! 

May we have your considered response to the present
tense, personal query, of “The Question”? Here it is: 

“Does my birth as a human being truly condemn
me to paying taxes to or otherwise supporting
a society so cowardly and lost to the madness
of greed as to participate in plans and preparations
to wage nuclear war and risk thereby the murder
of hundreds of millions of defenceless fellow
human beings?” 

Some may wait for the passage of time, to be asked
that question by another. What, then, the answer? 

The tax refusal is lawful. It grows. It will lead humanity
to use or dismantle its weapons and murderous mindsets. 

In view of the fact that many, similar to golf...@idirect.com,
have resigned themselves to our will and capacity to use our
weapons of mass murder, advancing the date of probable all-out
use is an acceptable strategy that takes nothing from anyone
and offers all a chance at understanding the meaning of “life”. 

Daniel J. Lavigne
Founder, Co-ordinator
International Humanity House
--
LOOKING AWAY 

Society’s victims, aloof, askance
Suffering the poison of indifference.
Living in violent pinpoint balance,
In subservience to political whores.
COWARDS! 

Copyright. February 21/88 Daniel J. Lavigne 


--
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IT GUIDES HIS PASSIONS, LEADS HIS HEART AND LIVES FOREVER!
Copyright. June 10, 1996 Daniel J. Lavigne 

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24/03/1997 


Daniel...may you forever be looking over your shoulder for Rev. Canada
or the men in white coats, threatening to take you back.!!!! 

Daniel J. Lavigne 

25/03/1997 


golf...@idirect.com, developing a sudden interest,
(all of four “posts” as a “newbie” in two days!) in
the possibility that CSB’s, other bonds and private
investments may not be as safe as desired due to the
lawful and growing tax refusal and showing great
concern that all those who answer “YES” to “The
Question” will be expected to remain as “supporters”
of the existing taxation system while others simply
drop out as allowed and foreseen by decision T2020-88
of The Federal Court Of Canada, pecked: 

>Daniel...may you forever be looking over your shoulder
>for Rev. Canada or the men in white coats, threatening
>to take you back.!!!! 

AND 

>Daniel...you are starting to sound like Johnny one
>note....is this your life's mission....try selling
>mags door to door or 'Outreach" on the corner....or
>take Mr. Sherman's challenge..provide your address,
>SIN # etc. Until you do...you are "a tale told by an
>idiot..full of sound and fury signifying nothing!!!!!!" 

There is no challenge dear golfer. Sherman’s hopes
fail as meaningless cack. I claim to have won the
right to refuse to file tax returns or pay taxes to
any society so lost to cowardice and the madness of
greed as to willfully support plans and preparations
involving the will and the capacity to use nuclear and
other weapons of mass murder against fellow defenceless
human beings. Due to that claim I need not file! If I
did not win, Rev Can would have come calling long ago!
Think about it! 

Your favourite boogy men including their cohorts in
government and the courts are most reluctant to risk
and publicize any legal action to reverse the court’s
decision and have me ordered, lawfully, to cease
promoting the decision as one that allows thinking
adults to reconsider the whole idea of supporting
the past lies, practices and deceits of such as
yourself dear fellow. 

Should Mr. Sherman care to explain and rectify the
inconsistency he offers to the newsgroup as regards rule
419(1)(a) of The Federal Court Rules, some may come to
believe that decision T2020-88 was simply struck and not
applicable to my stated claim. But! He can not do so
even though two dozen establishment lawyers toil daily
trying to come up with a valid, read “legal”, way of
stopping me! (Sorry guys! You blew it!!) 

Nor can he explain away the actions of the court in
failing to deal with the accusations it faced and had
to address or be seen to be party to the insanity that
would willingly continue the sad spectre of the arms
race and humanity’s observed willingness to murder
itself by the millions. Read "To Duty - The Trial",
and "T2020-88 The Speech", that will warm your swing! 

The decision, dear golfer, is now embedded in the body
of Canadian law in spite of the total blackout on
publication of the events prior to and during the trial!
You no longer have to pay taxes! Subject of course to
identifying yourself publicly as one to whom the right
and duty to refuse to support any society participating
in plans and preparations involving the will and capacity
to commit mass murder must be obeyed and respected! 

I am sure that the matter is of no consequence to you.
Your leige has the biggest lance, why should you care
about the others? Your bread is well buttered and on
the proper side!! Why now worry about a bit of the
“Jelly” being lost? Unless of course both “The Question”
and your knowledge of your fellow “taxpayers” has you
concerned that the fan is being hit from all sides! 

Tell us your projections dear golfer! Will it take six
months for the bond market to collapse after the refusal
is presented to a worldwide public? 

Stay close to your little men in white dear golfer. The
coming crash just might rattle your bag. 

Now do give us your considered (that means “do think
about it first”) response to “The Question”. Here it is: 

“Does my birth as a human being truly condemn
me to paying taxes to or otherwise supporting
a society so cowardly and lost to the madness
of greed as to participate in plans and preparations
to wage nuclear war and risk thereby the murder
of hundreds of millions of defenceless fellow
human beings?” 

Fools, dear golfer, will have a hard time with this
question. But even fools understand that if they answer
“YES!” they are truly fools for supporting insanity and
those who would precipitate wilful use of such weaponry! 

The tax refusal, dear golfer, is well on its way to
exponential growth and a sudden resolution of your
problem! Are you so foolhardy as to continue saying
you are a fool?? Will you again say “YES!” to
“The Question”? 

Think of similar types who may wait for the passage of
time, to be asked “The Question” by another. What, then,
will be their answer? What, then, will be your answer? 

And that passage of time may not be more than a few years
if the refusal spreads in keeping with projections. 

A decision to use or dismantle the insanity you so long
supported will have to be made. Why? Because your kind
will finally balk at the price of keeping your fingers
near the buttons dear golfer! 

If there is no money available for the maintenance of
vigilance, if the western powers fall to the level of
societal interaction now prevalent in Russia, China and
elsewheres, what else can we do other than launch or
seek agreement to dismantle all such weaponry!? 

Will we launch!!?? Are you worried?? Why?? If we
launch there will be nothing worth living for!! If we
don’t get rid of them there is nothing to live for as
we know what we are prepared to do to each other! Could
it be that we have lied to each other all these years?
That we HAVE WASTED MILLIONS OF LIVES AND TRILLIONS OF
DOLLARS because we knew it would come to this as no one
would unilateraly abandon the insanity? 

Choose well dear golfer! The game has a price!! 

Daniel J. Lavigne
Founder, Co-ordinator
International Humanity House
--
LOOKING AWAY 

Society’s victims, aloof, askance
Suffering the poison of indifference.
Living in violent pinpoint balance,
In subservience to political whores.
COWARDS! 

Copyright. February 21/88 Daniel J. Lavigne 

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